poor God – so misunderstood
May 22, 2007
poor God –
always an excuse
for war,
always an excuse
for wealth.
wrestling with congruency
poor God –
always an excuse
for war,
always an excuse
for wealth.
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May 22, 2007 at 5:01 pm
Hi Qazse,
Intriguing little verse, care to explain?
winslie
May 23, 2007 at 9:59 am
It seems to me that most war has been rationalized throughout modern history based upon some reference to a higher power, whether it be the pope, emperor, manifest destiny, conversion, doctrine, being “chosen”, and so on.
Wealth and privilege, and good fortune have often been ascribed to the favors of “God”.
When writing the verse I struggled with whether to use the term “ever” instead of “always”. Either way, I do not mean the all inclusive connotation but rather the more temporal meaning.
What do you think?
May 23, 2007 at 11:23 am
Hi Qazse
So do you see God as misunderstood?
Or that god is just after all man excusing their actions
May 23, 2007 at 12:11 pm
I see God as misunderstood and misrepresented.
May 23, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Qazse
May I enquire: your definition of God
May 23, 2007 at 1:44 pm
i think this poem speaks truth.
God is often made the scapegoat, folded and squished by our limited comprehension.
i think we misunderstand ourselves, ascribing to ourselves and others more power than we have.
His ways are higher than man’s, and that just really kills us.
May 23, 2007 at 3:33 pm
Winslie, I believe God to be the power of love, peace, and kindness. I believe in a God who is becoming. I believe in a God who needs us as much as we need God. I reject the notion of a hurtful God. I believe there are many paths.
Christine, “God is often made the scapegoat, folded and squished by our limited comprehension” well put.
May 25, 2007 at 3:18 am
Interesting post…and comments. I often wonder whether God made us or we made God! But whichever way, we do use Him (Her?) as an excuse for our unfair practices.
May 25, 2007 at 8:03 am
Qazse
I find the God concept uncomfortable because of the all the atrocities committed in the name of religion.
But at the same time I cannot be categorical
May 25, 2007 at 7:36 pm
worldlywise, I do not believe in the god “experts” claim to know but rather the God that mystics such as Gibran speak of.
Winslie, see above response.
May 26, 2007 at 3:32 am
Quzse,
Knowing God is different from believing in God. Most of us only believe in a God that others have told us about. Knowing God is an experience…of bliss that you feel from withing, when no doubts remain.
If you want, here’s something you can read on knowing v/s believing
May 26, 2007 at 3:09 pm
The word may be morphed into meaning for the benefit of man’s prosperity. This is a selfish act, which is not the nature of God; however the nature of man. Therefore, God = man. In the definition of some. If this is the case, we may say man = God. If this is the case, the definition of God must be one of many imperfections. Somehow, I think the translations became distorted when man began to make decisions in the name of God.
May 26, 2007 at 6:37 pm
amen
May 26, 2007 at 10:55 pm
Manoj (wordlywise) very succinct treatment of the subject. I like your liberal use of examples. You must be an effective teacher. I agree with almost all of what you say. I like how you operationalize the two concepts.
In December I posted the following poem which,in part, deals with the subject of believing and knowing.
concrete god
Is God not concrete
enough for you?
Do you need more
than knowing?
Do you need
tricks and promises?
experts and channellers?
pomp and ceremony?
the fear of hell?
June 16, 2007 at 3:39 pm
Awesome. I love your poem!!! 🙂
June 17, 2007 at 12:34 am
thank you!